War is not the answer — if the questions are carefully controlled by the New Hegemony
I’m so very tired.
So very tired of the people who are close to me, who still believe, after having drunk from the stagnant pool of sludge they call ‘news’ at CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, and yes, even Fox — that we (Americans) are evil for having waged war in Iraq, that G.W. Bush is evil for having championed war in Iraq, and that anyone who believes it was a correct action is somehow deluded or bloodthirsty.
ARE YOU UNABLE OR UNWILLING TO PAY ATTENTION? CAN YOU DO MATH?
Sure, war is not a pleasant thing. We all wish that it would never happen. But do you have a comprehension of why we went there? (And if you really believe in all that ‘WMD lies’ crap, I think we can both agree that it’s pointless for you to continue wasting your time reading this blog…)
Some simple breakdowns provided by Scott Thong at BUUUUUURNING HOT:
George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq: From the 57 months of 20 March 2003 until end 2008, using the Iraq Body Count estimate, a total of 98,882 Iraqi civilians died as a result of the war and occupation. That is a rate of 1734.772 deaths per month. The overwhelming majority of these deaths were caused not by US military forces following Bush’s orders, but by Islamic militants and terrorists (most often foreigners from outside Iraq) who targeted their own Muslim brethren. The death rate has now trailed off as Al Qaeda in Iraq and other terrorist groups have been soundly defeated and pushed to the margins of the country (see conclusion).[SIDE NOTE: This proves the point that it is JIHADISTS who have been causing all the death and suffering, and if they hadn't meddled in Iraq then the US forces would have been long gone out of there! So blame the mujahideen, not the US troops for the prolonged occupation of Iraq by 'kaffir' American infidels.]
Saddam Hussein’s reign: From the 285 months of Saddam Hussein’s reign from 16 July 1979 to 9 April 2003, using just six of the war crime events listed by U.S. War Crimes Ambassador David J. Scheffer, a total of 865,000 Iraqis civilians died as the result of Saddam’s ethnic cleansing, political oppression and ‘arrests’. That is a rate of 3035.088 deaths per month… 1.75 times greater than Bush’s death rate. This figure does not count the deaths of non-Iraqis, nor the casualties suffered during the wars against Iran and Kuwait, nor the countless other documented human rights abuses Saddam committed.
Bill Clinton era embargo: From the 108 months of 6 August 1990 to 6 August 1999, using the United Nations estimate, a total of 1 million Iraqi civilians died as result of the sanctions. Of these, as many as 567,000 of the casualties were children. That is a rate of 9259.259 deaths per month… 5.337 times greater than Bush’s death rate. Justify that, anti-war liberal Democrats. (Clinton actually only gained the Presidency on 20 January 1993, but the sanctions also lasted past the date of the UN estimate – to 22 May 2003, while Clinton stepped down on 20 January 2001.)
RECAP: Bush’s per month Iraqi civilian death rate was 1.742 times less than Saddam’s and 5.334 times less than Clinton’s.
CONCLUSION: Considering that now Iraq has a FAR LOWER violent death toll than any one of Colombia, South Africa, Jamaica, Venezuela, New Orleans, Washington, Baltimore, Atlanta and even Obama’s Chicago (and dropping every day!) and there is clearly visible peace in Iraq, I stand by my claim:
The just war initiated by George W. Bush saved 601,895 Muslim lives.
[Please take a moment and read the lead in to this full article; it offers the simplest perspective on why Conservatives do not question the morality of this decision.]
April 6th, 2009 at 10:01 am
I was watching a program on the meltdown now, and a comparison to the Great Depression last night on the History Channel. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor several times, but they were pointing to Ronald Reagan as being the starting point of “deregulating” businesses and cutting taxes on “the very rich” as being the the start of the mess we are in today! You can’t even get “real history” untainted by liberalism on the History Channel!!!! Having studied a lot of American Civil War history, I knew they goobered up that with misinformation, but they don’t get current history straight without plugging in the liberal agenda. I think of most of what television has to offer these days is a cesspool of misinformation. They are literally using the minds of America as garbage cans. Look at textbooks, the liberal tainting of history, and the fact it has been going on for decades in our “government schools”, it’s not surprising that young people are locked into drinking the Obama Messiah’s socialist koolaid.
I don’t think many of the things Bush/Cheney did was right, and if history is written with any integrity in the future, he wasn’t as awful as liberals make him out to be (No worse than the Kennedy’s were given the challenges handed to him!). He was a centrist, gave away too much of our sovereignty, and Cheney’s connection to Haliburton points to corruption in the government contract system… but… those things have been happening for decades and Iraq has been handled with honor by our troops, and lives were saved, as you point out. Most of the civilian deaths are traceable to the “imported Al Qaeda operatives” and not our troops who have defined rules of engagement that have cost many their lives.
Reading William F. Buckley Jr.’s “mission statement” for the National Review was incredible for me. He points to all that is happening now! This was written in 1954/55!!!!! I find myself clinging to it and reading more WFB. I am sick of being manipulated by liberal bullying and propaganda. The best way to work one’s way through the sewer, is to cling to the writings of the enlightened ones, like Jefferson, Webster, and yes, William F. Buckley.
The mission statement moved me. Read it here.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDJhYTJjNWI0MWFiODBhMDc2MzQwY2JlM2RhZjk5ZjM=
April 6th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Thanks for the citation!
Just to inform you that I noticed a typo in my post – the figure of 601,895 is corect, not 600,807. Sorry about that!
April 6th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Indeed, Mom, if only the DNC were not so deeply embedded in the media, then people might remember just which President signed the Community Reinvestment Act into law.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Sheesh, I pointed this out but never had the numbers many times to the anti-war folks I’ve run across along my travels… But then, they just ignore such numbers anyway. Doesn’t appeal to they’re emotions as much as the death toll ‘we create’.
I always drew my moral clarity about Iraq from being there and doing the good things we did for those folks. All we asked was that they don’t kill us and we’ll fix what we broke toppling they’re dictator. You would think toppling dictators would be enough of a cause for most folks. You would think killing the dictators two sadistic murderous sons would be enough. But no. Not to the Anti-War crowd who have the likes of Carter who never met a dictator he didn’t like.
My greatest sense of moral clarity came from my time in Iraq while I was in Mosul at FOB Courage, an old Ba’ath Party palace compound. There was a decent perimeter worth using as a running route to keep in shape, part of that ran by a serene man made lake in front of one of Saddam’s son’s palaces. It was beautiful, and it was terrible, but at least 21 families learned where they’re daughters had disappeared during the reign of terror prior to our invasion. When US Forces first took over that compound, they drained the lake and recovered the remains of those women, identified them, and returned them to family members for proper burial. Saddam’s boys had enjoyed the ability to take any woman they wanted, rape them, kill them, and toss them out in the pond.
While I’ve never had the numbers, that little personal piece of history is more than enough to justify the invasion and the downfall of the Saddam and his sons. After all, that was just ONE palace of HUNDREDS across the country, along with the mass graves we’ve discovered and continue to assist the Iraqis in finding.
WMD’s, I’m sure they are out there somewhere, but after seeing the inner workings of the Ba’ath Party in Iraq, I can’t say that there is ANY scandal in destroying them. Feeling sorry for Saddam is just sympathy for the Devil, sympathy for Hitler, and sympathy for any other molesting rapist murderous SOB.